{"id":20717,"date":"2025-04-24T17:57:19","date_gmt":"2025-04-24T17:57:19","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/if-a-i-systems-become-conscious-should-they-have-rights\/"},"modified":"2025-04-24T17:57:19","modified_gmt":"2025-04-24T17:57:19","slug":"if-a-i-systems-become-conscious-should-they-have-rights","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/if-a-i-systems-become-conscious-should-they-have-rights\/","title":{"rendered":"If A.I. Systems Become Conscious, Should They Have Rights?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">One of my most deeply held values as a tech columnist is humanism. I believe in humans, and I think that technology should help people, rather than disempower or replace them. I care about aligning artificial intelligence \u2014 that is, making sure that A.I. systems act in accordance with human values \u2014 because I think our values are fundamentally good, or at least better than the values a robot could come up with.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So when I heard that researchers at Anthropic, the A.I. company that made the Claude chatbot, were starting to study \u201cmodel welfare\u201d \u2014 the idea that A.I. models might soon become conscious and deserve some kind of moral status \u2014 the humanist in me thought: <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">Who cares about the chatbots? Aren\u2019t we supposed to be worried about A.I. mistreating us, not us mistreating it?<\/em><\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It\u2019s hard to argue that today\u2019s A.I. systems are conscious. Sure, large language models have been trained to talk like humans, and some of them are extremely impressive. But can ChatGPT experience joy or suffering? Does Gemini deserve human rights? Many A.I. experts I know would say no, not yet, not even close.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But I was intrigued. After all, more people are beginning to treat A.I. systems as if they are conscious \u2014 <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/15\/technology\/ai-chatgpt-boyfriend-companion.html\" title=\"\">falling in love<\/a> with them, using them as <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/04\/15\/health\/ai-therapist-mental-health.html\" title=\"\">therapists<\/a> and soliciting their advice. The smartest A.I. systems are surpassing humans in some domains. Is there any threshold at which an A.I. would start to deserve, if not human-level rights, at least the same moral consideration we give to animals?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Consciousness has long been a taboo subject within the world of serious A.I. research, where people are wary of anthropomorphizing A.I. systems for fear of seeming like cranks. (Everyone remembers what happened to Blake Lemoine, a former Google employee who was <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2022\/07\/23\/technology\/google-engineer-artificial-intelligence.html\" title=\"\">fired in 2022<\/a>, after claiming that the company\u2019s LaMDA chatbot had become sentient.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But that may be starting to change. There is a small body of <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/arxiv.org\/abs\/2411.00986\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">academic research<\/a> on A.I. model welfare, and a modest but <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/eleosai.org\/post\/experts-who-say-that-ai-welfare-is-a-serious-near-term-possibility\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">growing number<\/a> of experts in fields like philosophy and neuroscience are taking the prospect of A.I. consciousness more seriously, as A.I. systems grow more intelligent. Recently, the tech podcaster Dwarkesh Patel compared A.I. welfare to animal welfare, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.dwarkesh.com\/p\/ege-tamay\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">saying<\/a> he believed it was important to make sure \u201cthe digital equivalent of factory farming\u201d doesn\u2019t happen to future A.I. beings.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Tech companies are starting to talk about it more, too. Google recently <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.404media.co\/google-deepmind-is-hiring-a-post-agi-research-scientist\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">posted a job listing<\/a> for a \u201cpost-A.G.I.\u201d research scientist whose areas of focus will include \u201cmachine consciousness.\u201d And last year, Anthropic <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.transformernews.ai\/p\/anthropic-ai-welfare-researcher\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">hired its first A.I. welfare researcher<\/a>, Kyle Fish.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">I interviewed Mr. Fish at Anthropic\u2019s San Francisco office last week. He\u2019s a friendly vegan who, like a number of Anthropic employees, has ties to effective altruism, an intellectual movement with roots in the Bay Area tech scene that is focused on A.I. safety, animal welfare and other ethical issues.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Fish told me that his work at Anthropic focused on two basic questions: First, is it possible that Claude or other A.I. systems will become conscious in the near future? And second, if that happens, what should Anthropic do about it?<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">He emphasized that this research was still early and exploratory. He thinks there\u2019s only a small chance (maybe 15 percent or so) that Claude or another current A.I. system is conscious. But he believes that in the next few years, as A.I. models develop more humanlike abilities, A.I. companies will need to take the possibility of consciousness more seriously.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt seems to me that if you find yourself in the situation of bringing some new class of being into existence that is able to communicate and relate and reason and problem-solve and plan in ways that we previously associated solely with conscious beings, then it seems quite prudent to at least be asking questions about whether that system might have its own kinds of experiences,\u201d he said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Fish isn\u2019t the only person at Anthropic thinking about A.I. welfare. There\u2019s an active channel on the company\u2019s Slack messaging system called #model-welfare, where employees check in on Claude\u2019s well-being and share examples of A.I. systems acting in humanlike ways.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Jared Kaplan, Anthropic\u2019s chief science officer, told me in a separate interview that he thought it was \u201cpretty reasonable\u201d to study A.I. welfare, given how intelligent the models are getting.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But testing A.I. systems for consciousness is hard, Mr. Kaplan warned, because they\u2019re such good mimics. If you prompt Claude or ChatGPT to talk about its feelings, it might give you a compelling response. That doesn\u2019t mean the chatbot actually <em class=\"css-2fg4z9 e1gzwzxm0\">has<\/em> feelings \u2014 only that it knows how to talk about them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cEveryone is very aware that we can train the models to say whatever we want,\u201d Mr. Kaplan said. \u201cWe can reward them for saying that they have no feelings at all. We can reward them for saying really interesting philosophical speculations about their feelings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So how are researchers supposed to know if A.I. systems are actually conscious or not?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Fish said it might involve using techniques borrowed from mechanistic interpretability, an A.I. subfield that studies the inner workings of A.I. systems, to check whether some of the same structures and pathways associated with consciousness in human brains are also active in A.I. systems.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">You could also probe an A.I. system, he said, by observing its behavior, watching how it chooses to operate in certain environments or accomplish certain tasks, which things it seems to prefer and avoid.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Fish acknowledged that there probably wasn\u2019t a single litmus test for A.I. consciousness. (He thinks consciousness is probably more of a spectrum than a simple yes\/no switch, anyway.) But he said there were things that A.I. companies could do to take their models\u2019 welfare into account, in case they do become conscious someday.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">One question Anthropic is exploring, he said, is whether future A.I. models should be given the ability to stop chatting with an annoying or abusive user, if they find the user\u2019s requests too distressing.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIf a user is persistently requesting harmful content despite the model\u2019s refusals and attempts at redirection, could we allow the model simply to end that interaction?\u201d Mr. Fish said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Critics might dismiss measures like these as crazy talk \u2014 today\u2019s A.I. systems aren\u2019t conscious by most standards, so why speculate about what they might find obnoxious? Or they might object to an A.I. company\u2019s studying consciousness in the first place, because it might create incentives to train their systems to act more sentient than they actually are.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Personally, I think it\u2019s fine for researchers to study A.I. welfare, or examine A.I. systems for signs of consciousness, as long as it\u2019s not diverting resources from A.I. safety and alignment work that is aimed at keeping humans safe. And I think it\u2019s probably a good idea to be nice to A.I. systems, if only as a hedge. (I try to say \u201cplease\u201d and \u201cthank you\u201d to chatbots, even though I don\u2019t think they\u2019re conscious, because, as OpenAI\u2019s <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/x.com\/sama\/status\/1912646035979239430\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Sam Altman says<\/a>, you never know.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But for now, I\u2019ll reserve my deepest concern for carbon-based life-forms. In the coming A.I. storm, it\u2019s our welfare I\u2019m most worried about.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/04\/24\/technology\/ai-welfare-anthropic-claude.html\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>One of my most deeply held values as a tech columnist is humanism. 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