{"id":19019,"date":"2025-04-12T18:44:21","date_gmt":"2025-04-12T18:44:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/rosie-odonnell-on-ireland-trump-and-her-new-hulu-documentary\/"},"modified":"2025-04-12T18:44:21","modified_gmt":"2025-04-12T18:44:21","slug":"rosie-odonnell-on-ireland-trump-and-her-new-hulu-documentary","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/rosie-odonnell-on-ireland-trump-and-her-new-hulu-documentary\/","title":{"rendered":"Rosie O\u2019Donnell on Ireland, Trump and Her New Hulu Documentary"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s not my cello,\u201d Rosie O\u2019Donnell said over a video call, sitting on a gray love seat in a gray hoodie and a pair of chic brown glasses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In New York, it was a Thursday morning. In Dublin, where the actress, comedian and former talk show host has been staying since mid-January, afternoon light streamed through a nearby window. The cello came with the rental.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Lots of celebrities talked during the 2016, 2020 and 2024 elections about moving abroad if Donald J. Trump won \u2014 among them, Barbra Streisand, Cher, and Amy Schumer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell actually went through with it.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI never thought he would win again,\u201d she said of President Trump, bringing up the television clips she watched last year of Kamala Harris, then the vice president, appearing at packed arenas in Pennsylvania and Michigan. \u201cBut I said, \u2018If he does, I\u2019m going to move,\u2019 and my therapist said, \u2018Well, let\u2019s make a real plan.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It so happens that Ms. O\u2019Donnell had reservations about discussing all this with a reporter.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Her application for Irish citizenship has not yet been approved and she is worried about doing anything to jeopardize that. Technically, she and her youngest child, Clay, who is autistic and nonbinary, are still just visiting the country.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">That being said, Ms. O\u2019Donnell has a documentary she wants to promote \u2014 \u201cUnleashing Hope: The Power of Service Dogs for Autism,\u201d the story of a program in which incarcerated people train service dogs in prison, after which the dogs are placed with families like hers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell did appear on \u201cThe Late Late Show,\u201d Ireland\u2019s equivalent of \u201cThe Tonight Show,\u201d a few weeks back. On it, she talked about her new life in the country, hurled some insults at Mr. Trump and gave every indication that she would be remaining over there for the foreseeable future.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But much of her focus at the moment is on the documentary, which was inspired partly by, of all things, her unlikely relationship with Lyle Menendez, the convicted murderer.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-1u37br4 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-3ff1889f\">Finding the Good in People<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell, of course, has been feuding with Mr. Trump since 2006, when she joined \u201cThe View,\u201d a chatfest created by the anchorwoman Barbara Walters.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">On the show, in response to what she felt was Mr. Trump\u2019s receiving overly positive coverage for his treatment of a controversy involving a Miss USA contestant, Ms. O\u2019Donnell mocked Mr. Trump, flipping her hair over her face and delivering a withering impersonation while questioning his role as a moral arbiter and a successful businessman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump threatened to sue \u201cThe View\u201d and Ms. Walters personally. Ms. Walters got on the phone with him to smooth things over. Soon enough, Mr. Trump was appearing all over cable news calling Ms. O\u2019Donnell \u201cwacko\u201d and \u201cfat,\u201d and he said Ms. Walters personally told him that she regretted hiring Ms. O\u2019Donnell.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The year after, despite soaring ratings, Ms. O\u2019Donnell left the show. But her feud with Mr. Trump never ended. She became a fixture and a punchline in the supermarket tabloids, which she always suspected, but was unable to prove, was the work of Mr. Trump and Michael Cohen, his former lawyer and fixer who went to prison after pleading guilty to campaign-finance violations, tax fraud and bank fraud.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">While incarcerated at the federal correctional facility in Otisville, N.Y., Mr. Cohen received what he said in a phone interview on Friday was a letter from Ms. O\u2019Donnell. \u201cIt was so heartwarming and compassionate I actually thought I was being punked,\u201d he said. <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/05\/15\/style\/michael-cohen-rosie-odonnell-friendship.html\" title=\"\">She then visited Mr. Cohen in prison<\/a> and was in touch with him in the days before Mr. Trump was convicted on 34 counts of falsifying business records.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It may seem like a case of politics making strange bedfellows, but it was pretty typical behavior for Ms. O\u2019Donnell, who has a habit of finding the good in controversial people.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Friends of hers include <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2005\/05\/02\/national\/iraq-war-veteran-pleads-guilty-in-abu-ghraib-prison-scandal.html\" title=\"\">Lynndie England<\/a>, the former United States Army Reserve soldier who was prosecuted for mistreating detainees at the Abu Ghraib prison in Baghdad. Ms. O\u2019Donnell reached out to Ms. England during her 2005 trial, believing that she was being turned into a scapegoat for the injustices of the Iraq war.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">And there is <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2021\/06\/14\/us\/politics\/reality-winner-is-released.html\" title=\"\">Reality Winner<\/a>, the former military contractor who pleaded guilty to felony transmission of national defense information after leaking classified documents about Russian interference in the 2016 election to The Intercept, a nonprofit news site. During the trial, Ms. O\u2019Donnell got in touch with Ms. Winner\u2019s mother, Billie Winner-Davis, and later had Ms. Winner on her podcast.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But no friendship of Ms. O\u2019Donnell\u2019s is more surprising than the one she has with Lyle Menendez, who along with his brother, Erik, was convicted of first degree murder and sentenced to life without parole for the 1989 slaying of their parents, Jose and Kitty Menendez.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">While the brothers were on trial in 1996, Ms. O\u2019Donnell gave an interview on \u201cLarry King Live\u201d in which she said that she believed the brothers had been molested as children and that the murders were, in some way, an act of self-defense.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Soon after, she received a letter from Lyle Menendez.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In it, he thanked her for her support and stated his belief that she \u201cknew\u201d from a personal place that what he was saying was true. Ms. O\u2019Donnell did: She said she and her siblings had been molested by their father.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-6\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But she did not reach out to him then.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cAt that point, I had not ventured anywhere near this in my family or in my therapy,\u201d she said last week.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-7\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In 2022, after watching a documentary about the Menendez brothers, Ms. O\u2019Donnell discussed their case on TikTok, reiterating her belief that they were sexual abuse survivors who killed their parents out of a sense of trauma and desperation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Soon after, she said, Lyle Menendez\u2019s wife, Rebecca Sneed, reached out to her to see if she was interested in speaking with him.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Their first conversation lasted two or three hours, Ms. O\u2019Donnell said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThen he started calling me on a regular basis from the tablet phone thing they have,\u201d she said. \u201cHe would tell me about his life, what he\u2019s been doing in prison and, for the first time in my life, I felt safe enough to trust and be vulnerable and love a straight man.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Some of her friends expressed concern. \u201cThey were like, \u2018Ro, he\u2019s a murderer,\u2019\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">She shrugged, then went to visit him in prison, where she saw scores of inmates with Labrador retrievers stationed silently at their feet.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-8\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell asked Mr. Menendez how this could possibly be legal and he told her about a program they had to train and place dogs with blind, disabled veterans and autistic children. He suggested Ms. O\u2019Donnell get a dog for Clay through the program.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell said she felt uneasy at first. Clay is a highly verbal child and Ms. O\u2019Donnell, aware of her celebrity status, did not want to jump in front of someone who could not function without a highly trained service dog. But Mr. Menendez told her not to worry: The dogs were distributed according to need.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A year later, she was approved for a dog.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Ms. O\u2019Donnell spent two weeks commuting daily to the prison, where she was matched with Kuma, a black Labrador mix who had been trained for a year by <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.tiktok.com\/@carlos.aguirre780\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">Carlos Aguirre<\/a>, an inmate doing time for armed robbery. (Although the dog winds up working principally with the autistic child, the intensive training takes place between the dog and an adult.)<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Kuma bonded instantly with Clay when she came home. \u201cI noticed the difference in Clay immediately,\u201d she said. \u201cI was shocked to find out that all the stories I heard from other mothers of autistic children were true.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So Ms. O\u2019Donnell decided to film a short documentary about the program. The result of that, which was produced by Hilary Estey McLoughlin and Terrence Noonan \u2014 veterans of her late-1990s talk show \u2014 will be released on Hulu on April 22.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-9\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-1u37br4 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-3390af58\">Adjusting to a New Life<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">While the documentary was filming, Ms. O\u2019Donnell read <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/11\/29\/us\/politics\/trump-project-2025.html\" title=\"\">Project 2025<\/a>, a document created by the Heritage Foundation that laid out a right-wing agenda for a potential second Trump term. She believed Mr. Trump when he said he would be a dictator on Day 1, and she did not believe him when he said Project 2025 reflected anything other than a specific plan for what he would do as president.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWorld tragic events have always wiped me out emotionally,\u201d she said. \u201cI believe it stemmed from watching the Vietnam War on television as a little kid during dinner and seeing unbearably graphic horror on the news.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The first Trump term was debilitating for her.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI was unbelievably heavy, I was drinking too much,\u201d she said. \u201cBut there were guardrails.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-10\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In the campaign\u2019s final weeks, she made preparations. Just in case.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI got my passport renewed, I got Clay\u2019s passport renewed,\u201d she said. \u201cMy brother has his passport. All my cousins have their passports. But I was never a traveler.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So moving to Ireland felt strange, though she has been pleasantly surprised by how much she likes it.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-11\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI see reflections of myself in this country everywhere I look, and reflections of my family and my very Irish childhood,\u201d she said. \u201cWe\u2019re 100 percent Irish. Being Irish Catholic was a very big part of my identity, and coming back here does feel like coming home in a way that\u2019s hard to explain or understand, even for me.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The people, she said, are unusually friendly. When they approach her in public, they do so in a way that feels \u201c1,000 percent different than in the United States.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">There was an uncomfortable moment, however, when she watched Miche\u00e1l Martin, the prime minister of Ireland, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/12\/us\/politics\/takeaways-ireland-martin-trump-tariffs.html\" title=\"\">meet with Mr. Trump at the Oval Office<\/a> during a televised appearance.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">There, Brian Glenn, a reporter from the right-wing news outlet Real America\u2019s Voice and the boyfriend of Representative Marjorie Taylor Greene, Republican of Georgia, asked Mr. Martin why he was allowing Ms. O\u2019Donnell to move there when all she could do was \u201cbring unhappiness\u201d to the country.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Martin seemed to wince in his chair. But he was able to avoid the question because Mr. Trump jumped in to say what a good question that was and went about insulting Ms. O\u2019Donnell himself.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Afterward, Ms. O\u2019Donnell sent Mr. Martin a letter saying how embarrassed she was to have become a topic of conversation during what should have been a serious meeting. He has not responded.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-12\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It was yet another chapter in a feud with Mr. Trump that has been going for nearly 20 years. But given Ms. O\u2019Donnell\u2019s seeming ability to forge relationships with various castaways, criminals and other notorious people, it seemed fair to ask: Could she see any good residing in him?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cNone,\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"\/\/www.tiktok.com\/embed.js\"><\/script><br \/>\n<br \/><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<br \/><a 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