{"id":15777,"date":"2025-03-27T19:41:11","date_gmt":"2025-03-27T19:41:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/signal-chat-leak-angers-u-s-military-pilots\/"},"modified":"2025-03-27T19:41:11","modified_gmt":"2025-03-27T19:41:11","slug":"signal-chat-leak-angers-u-s-military-pilots","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/signal-chat-leak-angers-u-s-military-pilots\/","title":{"rendered":"Signal Chat Leak Angers U.S. Military Pilots"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The intelligence breach was bad enough, current and former fighter pilots said. But Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth\u2019s refusal to acknowledge that he should not have disclosed sensitive information about when American fighter pilots would attack sites in Yemen, they said, was even worse.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">On air bases, in aircraft carrier \u201cready rooms\u201d and in communities near military bases this week, the news that senior officials in the Trump administration discussed plans for an impending attack on Signal, a commercial messaging app, angered and bewildered men and women who have taken to the air on behalf of the United States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The mistaken inclusion of the editor in chief of The Atlantic in the chat and Mr. Hegseth\u2019s insistence that he did nothing wrong by disclosing the secret plans upend decades of military doctrine about operational security, a dozen Air Force and Navy fighter pilots said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Worse, they said, is that going forward, they can no longer be certain that the Pentagon is focused on their safety when they strap into cockpits.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThe whole point about aviation safety is that you have to have the humility to understand that you are imperfect, because everybody screws up. Everybody makes mistakes,\u201d said Lt. John Gadzinski, a former Navy F-14 pilot who flew combat missions from aircraft carriers in the Persian Gulf. \u201cBut ultimately, if you can\u2019t admit when you\u2019re wrong, you\u2019re going to kill somebody because your ego is too big.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">He and other pilots said that each day since Monday, when The Atlantic published an article about the chat disclosures, had brought a stunning new revelation. First came the news that Mr. Hegseth had put the operational sequencing, or flight schedules, for the F\/A-18 Hornets targeting the Houthi militia in Yemen on March 15 in the unclassified Signal group chat, which included several other senior officials.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cWe intentionally don\u2019t share plans with people who don\u2019t need to know,\u201d said one Navy F\/A-18 pilot, who has flown frequently in missions in the Middle East. \u201cYou don\u2019t share what time we\u2019re supposed to show up over a target. You don\u2019t want to telegraph that we\u2019re about to show up on someone\u2019s doorstep; that\u2019s putting your crew at risk.\u201d He and several other current and former pilots spoke on the condition of anonymity to avoid reprisals from the Pentagon and from allies of President Trump.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But then came Mr. Hegseth\u2019s initial response to the disclosures. He attacked Mr. Goldberg as a \u201cso-called journalist,\u201d and sought refuge in a semantic argument, saying that he had never disclosed \u201cwar plans.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">So on Wednesday, The Atlantic published the actual text of what he had written, at 11:44 a.m. the day of the attack, in the group chat: \u201c1215et: F-18s LAUNCH (1st strike package),\u201d Mr. Hegseth texted, some 30 minutes before it happened. \u201c1345: \u2018Trigger Based\u2019 F-18 1st Strike window Starts (Target Terrorist is @his Known Location so SHOULD BE ON TIME).\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">This text was two hours in advance of the strikes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Hegseth added: \u201c1410: More F-18s LAUNCH (2nd strike package).\u201d And then, \u201c1536: F-18 2nd Strike Starts \u2014 also first sea-based Tomahawks launched.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">That text gave almost three hours\u2019 notice.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">On Wednesday, Mr. Hegseth called his disclosure a \u201cteam update\u201d to \u201cprovide updates in real time, general updates in real time\u201d to keep Trump national security officials informed.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But details of military operations are usually kept so secret that even the service members taking part in them are \u201clocked down.\u201d That sometimes means they are not allowed to speak to others who do not have a need to know, let alone tell people about the plans, the fighter pilots interviewed said. In aircraft carrier \u201cready rooms,\u201d where flight squadrons spend their time when they are not in the air, crews burn instructions to destroy them.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s important to understand the degree that OPSEC is involved in every aspect of your life on an aircraft carriers,\u201d said former Navy Capt. Joseph Capalbo, who commanded a carrier air wing and two F\/A-18 squadrons, in a reference to operational security. \u201cRed Sea ops are conducted in complete silence \u2014 no one is talking on the radio. Because everything can be heard by somebody.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A former Air Force fighter pilot, Maj. Anthony Bourke, added: \u201cWhen you disclose operational security, people can get killed.\u201d He said that \u201cthese things are not taken lightly. I have never met anybody in the military who does not know this.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Hegseth, a former Fox News weekend host, served as a National Guard infantryman.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Cmdr. Parker Kuldau, a former Navy F\/A-18 pilot, called Mr. Hegseth\u2019s disclosures, and subsequent response to them, \u201cinfuriating.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt\u2019s so beyond what I would expect from anyone in the military,\u201d said Commander Kuldau, who also flew combat missions in the Middle East. \u201cThe idea that the secretary of defense, who should know better, has done this, is just mind-boggling.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Senior Defense Department officials and military analysts say that the Houthis possess air defenses, provided by Iran, that can target American warplanes.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThe Houthis have received several types of Iranian surface-to-air missiles designed to be capable of engaging fighter jets, including at high altitudes,\u201d said Fabian Hinz, a military analyst at the International Institute for Strategic Studies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Indeed, Houthi rebels for the first time fired surface-to-air missiles at an F-16 fighter jet on Feb. 19, a senior U.S. official said. The missiles missed the fighter. The Houthis have shot down several slower-flying U.S. Air Force drones.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The Trump administration has insisted that none of the information on the chat was classified, and Mr. Hegseth and other officials have said it was not a \u201cwar plan.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Sean Parnell, the Pentagon spokesman, said in response to a New York Times inquiry that the Signal chat \u201creferenced by The Atlantic was not a forum for the official planning and execution of military operations \u2014 which also involved Joint Staff and Joint Force leadership.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The chat included Vice President JD Vance; Secretary of State Marco Rubio; the national security adviser, Michael Waltz; and others, but not the acting chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Adm. Christopher Grady, the highest-ranking military official.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Parnell said that \u201cmilitary leadership are frequently not included in political meetings.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Vice Adm. Kevin M. Donegan, a former F\/A-18 pilot and a retired commander of U.S. naval forces in the Middle East, also pushed back on the idea that aviators\u2019 safety had ever been at risk from the disclosure of information on the March 15 attacks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cAssuming the timeline and information reported is true, the likelihood of anything getting to anyone who could have done anything in such a short time was very low,\u201d Admiral Donegan said. \u201cIn the end our planes did not get shot down and no U.S. service personnel were injured or died.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But one former senior Defense Department official with military experience said Mr. Hegseth\u2019s text describing launch times and the type of strike aircraft was, indeed, classified information that could have jeopardized pilots\u2019 lives if it had been released or obtained.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A former Navy F\/A-18 squadron commander also said that pilots flying combat missions would have considered the contents of Mr. Hegseth\u2019s text classified information. Revealing the details in text was \u201cextremely cavalier,\u201d the former pilot said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Had the Houthis learned the precise time of strikes and that they would be conducted by carrier-based attack planes in the northern Red Sea, they could have repositioned and prepared air defenses that have already shot down several remotely piloted American drones, the former Navy pilot said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Although Mr. Hegseth has dismissed the risks to the Navy pilots flying those attack missions, videos released by U.S. Central Command tell a different tale.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Some of the F\/A-18 Hornets shown taking off from the aircraft carrier U.S.S. Harry S. Truman in the Red Sea were armed with 500-pound and 1,000-pound bombs that could only be dropped well within range of the Houthis\u2019 air defenses.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-798hid etfikam0\">Greg Jaffe<!-- --> and <!-- -->John Ismay<!-- --> contributed reporting.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<p><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<br \/><a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/27\/us\/politics\/pilots-signal-leak.html\">Source link <\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The intelligence breach was bad enough, current and former fighter pilots said. 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