{"id":15583,"date":"2025-03-26T22:46:40","date_gmt":"2025-03-26T22:46:40","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/how-a-i-chatbots-like-chatgpt-and-deepseek-reason\/"},"modified":"2025-03-26T22:46:40","modified_gmt":"2025-03-26T22:46:40","slug":"how-a-i-chatbots-like-chatgpt-and-deepseek-reason","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/how-a-i-chatbots-like-chatgpt-and-deepseek-reason\/","title":{"rendered":"How A.I. Chatbots Like ChatGPT and DeepSeek Reason"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In September, OpenAI unveiled a new version of ChatGPT <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/09\/12\/technology\/openai-chatgpt-math.html\" title=\"\">designed to reason through tasks<\/a> involving math, science and computer programming. Unlike previous versions of the chatbot, this new technology could spend time \u201cthinking\u201d through complex problems before settling on an answer.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Soon, the company said its new reasoning technology had <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/12\/20\/technology\/openai-new-ai-math-science.html\" title=\"\">outperformed the industry\u2019s leading systems<\/a> on a series of <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/interactive\/2025\/03\/26\/business\/ai-smarter-human-intelligence-puzzle.html\" title=\"\">tests that track the progress of artificial intelligence<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Now other companies, like <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/12\/11\/technology\/google-ai-agent-gemini.html\" title=\"\">Google<\/a>, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/02\/20\/technology\/anthropic-funding-ai.html\" title=\"\">Anthropic<\/a> and China\u2019s <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/01\/27\/technology\/what-is-deepseek-china-ai.html\" title=\"\">DeepSeek<\/a>, offer similar technologies.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But can A.I. actually reason like a human? What does it mean for a computer to think? Are these systems really approaching true intelligence?<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Here is a guide.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-34ed812d\">What does it mean when an A.I. system reasons?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Reasoning just means that the chatbot spends some additional time working on a problem.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cReasoning is when the system does extra work after the question is asked,\u201d said Dan Klein, a professor of computer science at the University of California, Berkeley, and chief technology officer of Scaled Cognition, an A.I. start-up.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It may break a problem into individual steps or try to solve it through trial and error.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The original ChatGPT answered questions immediately. The new reasoning systems can work through a problem for several seconds \u2014 or even minutes \u2014 before answering.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-6cf85b64\">Can you be more specific?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">In some cases, a reasoning system will refine its approach to a question, repeatedly trying to improve the method it has chosen. Other times, it may try several different ways of approaching a problem before settling on one of them. Or it may go back and check some work it did a few seconds before, just to see if it was correct.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Basically, the system tries whatever it can to answer your question.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">This is kind of like a grade school student who is struggling to find a way to solve a math problem and scribbles several different options on a sheet of paper.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-2e3cc7cb\">What sort of questions require an A.I. system to reason?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It can potentially reason about anything. But reasoning is most effective when you ask questions involving math, science and computer programming.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-afa457f\">How is a reasoning chatbot different from earlier chatbots?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">You could ask earlier chatbots to show you how they had reached a particular answer or to check their own work. Because the original ChatGPT had learned from text on the internet, where people showed how they had gotten to an answer or checked their own work, it could do this kind of self-reflection, too.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But a reasoning system goes further. It can do these kinds of things without being asked. And it can do them in more extensive and complex ways.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Companies call it a reasoning system because it feels as if it operates more like a person thinking through a hard problem.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-7ba2620f\">Why is A.I. reasoning important now?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Companies like OpenAI believe this is the best way to improve their chatbots.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">For years, these companies relied on a simple concept: The more internet data they pumped into their chatbots, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/04\/06\/technology\/tech-giants-harvest-data-artificial-intelligence.html\" title=\"\">the better those systems performed<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But in 2024, they <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/12\/19\/technology\/artificial-intelligence-data-openai-google.html\" title=\"\">used up almost all of the text on the internet<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">That meant they needed a new way of improving their chatbots. So they started building reasoning systems.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-2ef8d492\">How do you build a reasoning system?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Last year, companies like OpenAI began to lean heavily on a technique called reinforcement learning.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Through this process \u2014 which can extend over months \u2014 an A.I. system can learn behavior through extensive trial and error. By working through thousands of math problems, for instance, it can learn which methods lead to the right answer and which do not.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Researchers have designed complex feedback mechanisms that show the system when it has done something right and when it has done something wrong.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt is a little like training a dog,\u201d said Jerry Tworek, an OpenAI researcher. \u201cIf the system does well, you give it a cookie. If it doesn\u2019t do well, you say, \u2018Bad dog.\u2019\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">(The New York Times <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2023\/12\/27\/business\/media\/new-york-times-open-ai-microsoft-lawsuit.html\" title=\"\">sued<\/a> OpenAI and its partner, Microsoft, in December for copyright infringement of news content related to A.I. systems.)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-6\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-72ce5ddd\">Does reinforcement learning work?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It works pretty well in certain areas, like math, science and computer programming. These are areas where companies can clearly define the good behavior and the bad. Math problems have definitive answers.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Reinforcement learning doesn\u2019t work as well in areas like creative writing, philosophy and ethics, where the <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2024\/09\/23\/technology\/ai-chatbots-chatgpt-math.html\" title=\"\">distinction between good and bad<\/a> is harder to pin down. Researchers say this process can generally improve an A.I. system\u2019s performance, even when it answers questions outside math and science.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt gradually learns what patterns of reasoning lead it in the right direction and which don\u2019t,\u201d said Jared Kaplan, chief science officer at Anthropic.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-7\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-2d6f81e8\">Are reinforcement learning and reasoning systems the same thing?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">No. Reinforcement learning is the method that companies use to build reasoning systems. It is the training stage that ultimately allows chatbots to reason.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-2f10faf1\">Do these reasoning systems still make mistakes?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Absolutely. Everything a chatbot does is based on probabilities. It chooses a path that is most like the data it learned from \u2014 whether that data came from the internet or was generated through reinforcement learning. Sometimes it chooses an option that is wrong or does not make sense.<\/p>\n<h2 class=\"css-13o6u42 eoo0vm40\" id=\"link-4e9d9aa\">Is this a path to a machine that matches human intelligence?<\/h2>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A.I. experts are split on this question. These methods are still relatively new, and researchers are still trying to understand their limits. 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