{"id":15287,"date":"2025-03-25T15:22:44","date_gmt":"2025-03-25T15:22:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/trumps-team-calls-europe-pathetic-in-leaked-signal-group-chat-messages\/"},"modified":"2025-03-25T15:22:44","modified_gmt":"2025-03-25T15:22:44","slug":"trumps-team-calls-europe-pathetic-in-leaked-signal-group-chat-messages","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/trumps-team-calls-europe-pathetic-in-leaked-signal-group-chat-messages\/","title":{"rendered":"Trump\u2019s Team Calls Europe \u2018Pathetic\u2019 in Leaked Signal Group Chat Messages"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-0\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Trump administration officials haven\u2019t kept their disdain for Europe quiet. But the contempt seems to be even louder behind closed doors.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Europeans reacted with a mix of exasperation and anger to the publication of parts of a discussion between top-ranking Trump administration officials, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/24\/us\/politics\/hegseth-classified-war-plans-group-chat.html\" title=\"\">carried out on the messaging app Signal<\/a>. The discussion, about a planned strike on Yemen, was replete with comments that painted Europeans as geopolitical parasites, and was revealed on Monday in <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.theatlantic.com\/politics\/archive\/2025\/03\/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans\/682151\/?utm_source=substack&amp;utm_medium=email\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">The Atlantic<\/a>, whose editor was inadvertently included in the conversation.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI just hate bailing out the Europeans again,\u201d wrote Vice President JD Vance, asserting that the strikes would benefit Europe far more than the United States.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cI fully share your loathing of European freeloading,\u201d Pete Hegseth, the secretary of defense, later replied. \u201cIt\u2019s PATHETIC.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-1\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The exchange seemed to show real feelings and judgments \u2014 that the Europeans are mooching and that any American military action, no matter how clearly in American interests as well, should be somehow paid for by other beneficiaries.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">A member of the chat identified as \u201cSM,\u201d and believed to be Stephen Miller, a top aide to President Trump, suggested that both Egypt and \u201cEurope\u201d should compensate the United States for the operation. \u201cIf Europe doesn\u2019t remunerate, then what? If the US successfully restores freedom of navigation at great cost there needs to be some further economic gain extracted in return,\u201d SM wrote.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-2\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The apparent disregard by administration officials of security protocols by having such a discussion \u2014 which included operational details \u2014 on a consumer chat app, even an encrypted one, prompted concern that Russia and China could be listening in. <\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cPutin is now unemployed: No point in spying anymore,\u201d Nathalie Loiseau, a member of European Parliament, <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"http:\/\/x.com\/NathalieLoiseau\/status\/1904465322121240760\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">wrote on X<\/a>, saying the leaks now came from the Americans themselves. \u201cNo point in crushing Ukraine anymore, Trump will take care of it.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-3\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The commentary in the exchange is the latest blow to one of the world\u2019s most storied alliances, which took generations to build and strengthen but which the Trump administration has managed to weaken in mere weeks.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cIt is clear that the trans-Atlantic relationship, as was, is over, and there is, at best, an indifferent disdain,\u201d said Nathalie Tocci, director of Italy\u2019s Institute of International Affairs, who formerly advised a top E.U. official. \u201cAnd at worst, and closer to that, there is an active attempt to undermine Europe.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">The European Union is, in many ways, the antithesis of the principles that Mr. Trump and his colleagues are championing. The bloc is built around an embrace of international trade based on rules. It has been at the forefront of climate-related regulation and social media user protections.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Europe has been on alert ever since Mr. Vance delivered a speech at a security conference in Munich last month that <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/foreignpolicy.com\/2025\/02\/18\/vance-speech-munich-full-text-read-transcript-europe\/\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">questioned European values<\/a> and its democracy and <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/02\/14\/us\/politics\/vance-far-right-germany-munich-afd.html\" title=\"\">shocked European leaders<\/a>. He followed that up <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=lNPWmty6KDA\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">by warning<\/a> that Europe was at risk of \u201ccivilizational suicide.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-4\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">If the relationship between the United States and Europe were merely transactional, it would be relatively easy for Europeans to just spend more on the military and give Mr. Trump some sort of victory, said Fran\u00e7ois Heisbourg, a French analyst and former defense official.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-5\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But in Mr. Vance\u2019s speech attacking European democracy in Munich, let alone in the newly public exchange, the distaste for Europe is about more than transactions.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cVance was quite clear: We don\u2019t share the same values,\u201d Mr. Heisbourg said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">He and others, like Anna Sauerbrey, the foreign editor of Die Zeit, noted that the explicit demand for payment, rather than just political and military support, as in Iraq and Afghanistan, was new. And it ignored the fact that \u201cthe U.S. depends on global trade,\u201d she said, and that \u201cFrance, Britain and the Netherlands have deployed ships to the region\u201d for the same purpose. The Americans, she said, \u201care constantly overlooking European efforts.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">China, for example, gets most of its oil imports through the Strait of Hormuz and does much of its export trade with Europe through the same sea route. But no one is asking China to pay, Ms. Tocci noted.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">For months, Washington has been sending barbed statements and actions Europe\u2019s way.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump has made it clear that he <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/article\/trump-greenland-why.html\" title=\"\">wants to acquire Greenland<\/a>, a semiautonomous territory of Denmark, even as European leaders warn that they will defend territorial integrity. Usha Vance, Mr. Vance\u2019s wife, and Mike Waltz, the national security adviser, are visiting the island this week, uninvited, its government says, and to an <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/23\/us\/politics\/usha-vance-trump-us-greenland.html\" title=\"\">agitated response<\/a>.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-6\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Mr. Trump has also repeatedly warned that Europe <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/02\/03\/world\/europe\/europe-trump-defense-budgets.html\" title=\"\">must pay much more<\/a> for its own defense, threatening not to come to the aid of nations that do not pay up sufficiently, and has pivoted <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/24\/world\/europe\/trump-russia-putin-ukraine.html\" title=\"\">sharply away<\/a> from Ukraine. He has simultaneously rolled out plans to slap hefty tariffs on Europe and argued that the European Union was created to <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/13\/world\/europe\/trump-europe-tariffs-retaliation.html\" title=\"\">\u201cscrew\u201d America<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Christel Schaldemose, a Danish politician who is a center-left member of European Parliament, said the way the U.S. has been talking about the E.U. in general lately is \u201cnot helping.\u201d<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cCould we start talking to each other as allies and not enemies?\u201d she said.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Even as European leaders try to maintain the friendship, they are racing to try to bolster their defense expenditures, cognizant that it would be nearly impossible to replace American military capabilities overnight.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">They are meeting on Thursday in Paris to discuss Ukraine, and NATO foreign ministers meet early next month to discuss progress.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-7\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">They are also scrambling to strike a trade deal with the United States, with the E.U. trade commissioner headed to Washington on Tuesday to talk with his American counterparts.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">But with America\u2019s increasingly hostile attitude toward Europe, the continent\u2019s officials are contemplating a future where the prized relationship stretching across the Atlantic, a foundation upon which decades of relative peace and prosperity have been built, might never be the same.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-8\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">\u201cThe international order is undergoing changes of a magnitude not seen since 1945,\u201d Kaja Kallas, the top E.U. diplomat, said last week, echoing a line from the bloc\u2019s defense <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/defence-industry-space.ec.europa.eu\/document\/download\/30b50d2c-49aa-4250-9ca6-27a0347cf009_en?filename=White%20Paper.pdf\" title=\"\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" target=\"_blank\">preparedness plan<\/a>, which is meant to help Europe to become more militarily independent.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Splintering from the United States is an expensive prospect. The E.U. has already unveiled an initiative that could be worth <a class=\"css-yywogo\" href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2025\/03\/04\/world\/europe\/eu-defense-spending.html\" title=\"\">800 billion euros<\/a>, about $865 billion, to help European nations achieve desired military spending levels.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<aside class=\"css-ew4tgv\" aria-label=\"companion column\"\/><\/div>\n<div data-testid=\"companionColumn-9\">\n<div class=\"css-53u6y8\">\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">Still, the group chat leak underscores why a divorce may be necessary: The United States is not the reliable ally it once was, either rhetorically or practically.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">It is highly unusual and possibly illegal for sensitive military plans to be discussed on a messaging app, rather than by a more secure means of communication.<\/p>\n<p class=\"css-at9mc1 evys1bk0\">That disregard for normal security procedures will \u201ccause allies to be very reluctant to share analysis and intelligence,\u201d said Ben Hodges, former commander of U.S. forces in Europe. 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