{"id":12242,"date":"2025-03-12T01:54:53","date_gmt":"2025-03-12T01:54:53","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/fire-lab-scientist-says-were-still-not-doing-enough-to-prevent-massive-wildfires-were-definitely-part-of-the-problem\/"},"modified":"2025-03-12T01:54:53","modified_gmt":"2025-03-12T01:54:53","slug":"fire-lab-scientist-says-were-still-not-doing-enough-to-prevent-massive-wildfires-were-definitely-part-of-the-problem","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/site.itshrt.com\/worldnews\/fire-lab-scientist-says-were-still-not-doing-enough-to-prevent-massive-wildfires-were-definitely-part-of-the-problem\/","title":{"rendered":"Fire lab scientist says we&#8217;re still not doing enough to prevent massive wildfires: &#8220;We&#8217;re definitely part of the problem&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p> <script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- ItShrt World News -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6606220950177433\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"1882483372\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script>\r\n<br \/>\n<\/p>\n<div id=\"\">\n<p>Tucked beneath snow-capped mountains in Montana, the Missoula Fire Sciences Laboratory is unlike any other lab in the country.\u00a0 It&#8217;s where scientists are starting fires to better understand how they burn \u2014 and how to <span class=\"link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/ai-fighting-wildfires\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">manage them<\/a><\/span>.<\/p>\n<p>The U.S. Forest Service built the fire sciences lab in 1960, inspired by a forest fire that killed 13 firefighters. The facility includes a 66-foot-high combustion chamber that allows for intense burn tests in controlled conditions. Today, about 80 employees are carrying on that mission of wildfire research, and keep coming back to one controlling principle.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;We&#8217;re definitely part of the problem,&#8221; said fire scientist and lab leader Mark Finney.<\/p>\n<p>Finney believes we still don&#8217;t implement some of the basics that could limit the flames, like clearing away dead and dry vegetation with more prescribed burns \u2014 including near urban areas. In his view, some smaller wildland fires should also be left to burn to eliminate fuels that would feed larger fires.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;The harder we fight fire, the harder we try to remove fire, the more the fuels build up in a given location&#8230;we&#8217;ve actually created conditions that make those fires worse,&#8221; Finney said. <\/p>\n<p>The fire lab allows the uncontrollable to be controlled and studied. Finney took CBS News to a silo where his team assembled dry logs and lit them on fire to simulate  wind-fueled flames on the forest floor. <\/p>\n<p>What they&#8217;re learning in the lab has never been more important, following a slew of massive wildfires \u2014 including ones that recently destroyed thousands of homes in the\u00a0<span class=\"link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/feature\/california-wildfires\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">Los Angeles<\/a><\/span>\u00a0area. <\/p>\n<p>The California governor&#8217;s office called the fires &#8220;unprecedented,&#8221; but Finney disagrees.<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;It&#8217;s the same fire events over and over again. And yet, decades go by and those lessons and those impacts are often forgotten,&#8221; Finney said.<\/p>\n<p>He hopes what the team learns from studying the flames can change the way we approach wildfires.<\/p>\n<p>When asked how to convince a community that lighting a <span class=\"link\"><a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/news\/los-angeles-wildfires-rebuilding-risks\/\" target=\"_blank\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">fire near their homes<\/a><\/span> is a good idea, Finney said, &#8220;The question is, what risks do you want? To experience the very low risk of having problems with prescribed burning, or do you want to basically roll the dice and just wait until circumstances overwhelm emergency response?&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>He continued, &#8220;We&#8217;ve proven that we can&#8217;t eliminate fire. The only choices we really have are when to have it and what kind to have.&#8221;<\/p>\n<p>That will require a change in perspective \u2014 looking at fire as an ally, not an enemy.<\/p>\n<p>    <!-- data-recirc-source=\"chartbeat\" --><\/p>\n<aside class=\"component list recirculation component--type-recirculation component--type-recirculation-collection\">\n<p>                  <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/feature\/eye-on-america\/?intcid=CNI-00-10aaa3a\" class=\"component__view-more component__view-more--sm\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\"><br \/>\n            More<br \/>\n            <svg viewbox=\"0 0 32 32\" class=\"icon__caret-right\" aria-hidden=\"true\"><use xlink:href=\"#icon-caret-down\"\/><\/svg><\/a><br \/>\n                    <\/aside>\n<p><!-- tags --><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-author\">\n      <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/team\/carter-evans\/\" class=\"content-author__name\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\">Carter Evans<\/a><\/p>\n<div class=\"content-author__bio\">\n<div class=\"content-author__image\">\n            <a href=\"https:\/\/www.cbsnews.com\/team\/carter-evans\/\" data-invalid-url-rewritten-http=\"\"><br \/>\n              <span class=\"img \"><img alt=\"headshot-600-carter-evans.jpg \" height=\"80\" width=\"80\" class=\" lazyload\" srcset=\"https:\/\/assets3.cbsnewsstatic.com\/hub\/i\/r\/2024\/05\/17\/f628dfb0-6055-4d7a-8e6e-11e5731d7d3d\/thumbnail\/80x80\/1e04c9a1d55b2aeb13e1a0cc853f4d65\/headshot-600-carter-evans.jpg?v=23322f4fbf0a01b337c42258c443e9ac 1x, https:\/\/assets2.cbsnewsstatic.com\/hub\/i\/r\/2024\/05\/17\/f628dfb0-6055-4d7a-8e6e-11e5731d7d3d\/thumbnail\/160x160\/77580eb1975911bb6cb7edc9c1dad559\/headshot-600-carter-evans.jpg?v=23322f4fbf0a01b337c42258c443e9ac 2x\"\/><\/span><br \/>\n            <\/a>\n          <\/div>\n<div class=\"content-author__full-information\">\n<p class=\"content-author__text\">Carter Evans has served as a Los Angeles-based correspondent for CBS News since February 2013, reporting across all of the network&#8217;s platforms. 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